[Mage] Arrivée des nouveaux arbres de talents [Sont Là]

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Han,


Histoire de prendre de l'avance, les arbres de talents mages (arrivée à la 1.11) seront montrés en preview demain sur IGN !

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J'éditerai au fur et à mesure des nouvelles


Voire en Bas pour le contenu :]
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 04/05/2006, 01h19
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[H - 1 jour en gros]
J'aurais plutôt dit J - 1.
Ou peut-être que c'est en prévision d'édition pour faire compte à rebours.

Désolé si je n'apporte rien, vraiment rien, à la discussion.
Je précise que le flood n'été pas prémédité, je passais car le sujet m'intéresse.
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 04/05/2006, 15h36
Ayé:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/704/704665p1.html

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Patch Notes:


Due to significant talent changes, Mages will have all talent points refunded and can be respent. Training costs for all talent spell replacements have been significantly reduced.

Arcane Explosion is now instant cast and will no longer remove the Presence of Mind effect when used.

Evocation - Is now available to all mages (via trainer), starting at level 20.

Conjure Food now has a new rank (Rank 7) available in Stratholme.

Frost Ward now has a new rank (Rank 5) available as item loot in dungeons.

Mana Shield - Damage taken will now be absorbed by other absorb spells (e.g. Ice Barrier, PW: Shield) before being absorbed by Mana Shield.

Dampen Magic - Damage and healing reduction increased on ranks 3 through 5.

Amplify Magic - Damage and healing bonus increased on ranks 2 through 4.


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Arcane Talents

Tier 1

Arcane Subtlety
Reduces your target's resistance to all your spells by 4/7/10, and all of your spell criticals cause 17/34/50% less threat.
Note: Functionality has been significantly altered.

Arcane Focus
Reduces the chance that the opponent can resist your Arcane spells by 2/4/6/8/10%.

Improved Arcane Missiles
Gives you a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.

Tier 2 (No changes)

Wand Specialization
Increases your damage with Wands by 5/10/15/20/25%.

Arcane Concentration
Gives you a 2/4/6/8/10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage.

Tier 3

Magic Attunement
Increases the effect of your Amplify Magic and Dampen Magic spells by 25/50%.
Note: This talent previously only affected Dampen Magic.

Improved Arcane Explosion
Increases the critical strike chance of your Arcane Explosion spell by an additional 1/2/3/4/5%.
Note: AE is now an instant cast spell, so this talent has been altered to add +crit instead of casting time reduction.

Arcane Resilience
Increases your armor by an amount equal to 50% of your Intellect.
Note: Evocation, previously in this location and now a trainer spell, has been traded for one that also gives mages an armor boost.

Tier 4

Improved Mana Shield
Decreases the mana lost per point of damage taken when Mana Shield is active by 10/20%.

Improved Counterspell
Gives Counterspell a 50/100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.

Arcane Meditation
Allows 5/10/15% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.
Note: Previously five increments of 3%, freeing up two talent points to spend elsewhere.

Tier 5 (No changes)

Presence of Mind
When activated, your next Mage spell with a casting time less than 10 sec becomes an instant cast spell.

Arcane Mind
Increases your maximum Mana by 2/4/6/8/10%.

Tier 6

Arcane Instability
Increases your spell damage and critical strike chance by 1/2/3%.

Tier 7

Arcane Power
When activated, your spells deal 30% more damage while costing 30% more mana to cast. This effect lasts 15 seconds.
Note: Damage and mana cost have been reduced by 5%.



Fire Talents


Tier 1 (No changes)

Improved Fireball
Reduces the casting time of your Fireball spell by 0.1/.2/.3/.4/.5 seconds.

Impact
Gives your Fire spells a 2/4/6/8/10% chance to stun the target for 2 seconds

Tier 2

Ignite
Your critical strikes from Fire damage spells cause the target to burn for an additional 8/16/24/32/40% of your spells damage over 4 seconds

Flame Throwing
Increases the range of your fire spells by 3/6 yards.

Improved Fire Blast
Reduces the cooldown of your Fire Blast spell by 0.5/1/1.5 seconds.
Note: Previously in five increments; two skill points freed up.

Tier 3

Incinerate
Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire Blast and Scorch spells by 2/4%.

Improved Flamestrike
Increases the critical strike chance of your Flamestrike spell by 5/10/15%.

Pyroblast
Hurls an immense fiery boulder that causes 148 to 195 Fire damage and an additional 56 Fire damage over 12 seconds.

Burning Soul
Gives your fire spells a 35/70% chance to not lose casting time when you take damage.
Note: Previously three increments -- 25/50/65%. One talent point freed up.

Tier 4

Improved Scorch
Your Scorch spells have a 33/66/100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to Fire damage. This vulnerability increase the Fire damage dealt to your target by 2% and lasts 15 seconds Stacks up to 5 times.
Note: Previously five increments of 20%. Two more talent points freed.

Improved Fire Ward
Causes your Fire Ward to have a 10/20% chance to reflect Fire spells while active.
Note: Was previously 20/35%.

Master of Elements
Your Fire and Frost spell criticals will refund 10/20/30% of their base mana cost.
Note: This is a new ability and, interestingly, affects more than one talent tree.

Tier 5 (No changes)

Critical Mass
Increases the critical strike chance of your fire spells by 2/4/6%.

Blast Wave
A wave of flame radiates outward from the caster, damaging all enemies caught within the blast for 160 to 192 Fire damage, and dazing them for 6 seconds.

Tier 6 (No changes)

Fire Power
Increases the damage done by your fire spells by 2/4/6/8/10%.

Tier 7

Combustion
When activated, this spell causes each Fire damage spell you cast to increase your critical strike chance with Fire damage spells by 10%. This effect lasts until you have caused 3 critical strikes with Fire spells.
Note: Significant functionality change. This used to grant a 100% chance to crit with your next fire spell. The cooldown is not listed.



Frost Talents


Tier 1

Improved Frost Nova
Reduces the cooldown of your Frost Nova spell by 2/4 seconds.

Improved Frostbolt
Reduces the casting time of your Frostbolt spell by 0.1/0.2/0.3/0.4/0.5 seconds.

Permafrost
Increases the duration of your Chill effects by 1 second and reduces the target's speed by an additional 4%/7%/10%.
Note: Additional speed reduction is new.

Tier 2
Note: Improved Frost Nova has been removed.

Ice Shards
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Frost spells by 20/40/60/80/100%.

Frost Warding
Increases the armor and resistances given by your Frost Armor and Ice Armor spells by 15/30%. In addition, gives your Frost Ward a 10% chance to reflect Frost spells and effects while active.

Frostbite
Gives your Chill effects a 5/10/15% chance to freeze the target for 5 seconds.
Note: Previously a Rank 6 item. Was also previously five increments of 3%. Two more skill points freed up. Winter's Chill moved to Rank 6, with adjusted functionality.

Tier 3

Piercing Ice
Increases the damage done by your Frost spells by 2/4/6%.

Cold Snap
Instant, 10-minute cooldown
When activated, this spell finishes the cooldown on all of your Frost spells.

Improved Blizzard
Adds a chill effect to your Blizzard spell. This effect lowers the target's movement speed by 40/60/75%. Lasts 4.50 seconds.
Note: Movement speed reduced by an additional 5%. Effect duration tripled.


Tier 4
Note: Improved Frost Ward has been removed.

Arctic Reach
Increases the range of your Frostbolt and Blizzard spells and the radius of your Frost Nova and Cone of Cold spells by 10%/20%.

Frost Channeling
Reduces the mana cost of your frost spells by 5/10/15%.

Shatter
Requires 3 points in Frostbite
Increases the critical strike chance of all your spells against frozen targets by 10%.
Note: Apparently now only one increment.

Tier 5 (No changes)

Ice Block
You become encased in a block of ice, protecting you from all physical attacks and spells for 10 sec, but during that time you cannot attack, move, or cast spells.

Improved Cone of Cold
Increases the damage dealt by your Cone of Cold spell by 15%/25%/35%.

Tier 6

Winter's Chill
Gived your Frost damage spells a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to apply the Winter's Chill effect, which increases the chance a Frost spell will critically hit the target by 1% for 15 seconds Stacks up to 5 times.
Note: Previously added three increments of 4% speed reduction to Chill effects. Was a Rank 2 item.

Tier 7 (No changes)

Ice Barrier
Instant cast, 30-second cool down
Instantly shields you, absorbing 454 damage. Lasts 1 minute. While the shield holds, spells will not be interrupted.
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 04/05/2006, 19h08
Ben... c'est sans plus quoi ^^ Comme annoncé y'a pas grand chose de changé

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Arcane Resilience
Increases your armor by an amount equal to 50% of your Intellect.
C'est c'est une grosse blague quand même ^^ ça va rajouter a tout casse 250 d'armure aux mages bien bien stuff


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Master of Elements
Your Fire and Frost spell criticals will refund 10/20/30% of their base mana cost.
Note: This is a new ability and, interestingly, affects more than one talent tree.
C'est ça qu'ils appelait augmenter l'intérêt du mage élémentaire ^^ C'est pas grand chose, enfin c'est toujours pratique, mais voila...

Sinon... ben je dirais que ça va pas me changer ma vie de mage
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 04/05/2006, 19h30
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Publié par Tristesse de la Lune
Etant donné qu'il s'agit d'une mise à jour, et que les MAJ ont leur place principalement sur le forum général, je vous invite à continuer la discussion sur ce fil.
Va mourir, ça a sa place ici, noube !
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 04/05/2006, 19h42
forcement à chaque fois les classes attendant de "vrais" changements et on leur propose que des tweaks ou pour rester en francais de legères alterations de l'arbre des talents.
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 05/05/2006, 15h18
Au contraire, moi je trouve ce nouvel arbre de talents très intéressant.
Il risque d'y avoir beaucoup moins de mage spé arcane (moi le premier ), et c'est ce que blizzard voulait pour favoriser les templates élémentalistes.
Fini les mages qui 2 shots
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 05/05/2006, 15h24
Le truc que je ne comprends pas et qui m'a fait mal pour ma classe ( et pour les mages maintenant ) c'est un an de reactions , de commentaires, de suggestions pour au final changer l'arbre des talents comme on fait ses devoirs le dimanche soir...
Serieux ca ne prend pas en compte 1/1000 des réactions. C'est baclé et ca pretend être le fruit de la reflection. Les devs de chez blizzard sont pire que des hommes politiques :

Joueurs : Bon on va faire bref
Voila nos problèmes : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Devs : Mage je vous ai compris ......

Le patch arrive,

Joueurs : Mais vous aviez dit que vous nous aviez compris ?
Devs : Ben oui on a fait ce que vous avez demandé !
Joueurs : Vous rigolez y a même pas 1/4 des pbs résolus
Devs : Si vous aviez dit : "on va faire bref"
Joueurs : .... j'arrete wow je reroll etc ....
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 05/05/2006, 16h22
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Fini les mages qui 2 shots
Blague ? Avec ou sans spé Arc le mage disposera toujours d'un bon burn DPS. Stuff+trinket et le tour est joué.

+1 au dessus, patch baclé pour changer.
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 05/05/2006, 19h33
Je crois que tu n'a rien compris à mon message. Selon moi la plus part des mages auront moins de points en arcane, et donc se passer de "Puissance des arcanes" pour se tourner vers une template plus élémentaliste.
Donc moins de burst dps mais un dps sur la durée.
Lien direct vers le message - Vieux 06/05/2006, 00h59
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