[Borus]

Très interessant

[Argath]

#6 No PvP Alliance

http://membres.lycos.fr/spectrez0/ss/sshot003.jpg

Sure you start perfectly your new rules

[Kanzaki]

Je vois des vae victis et des redemptions , je vois pas de req ni de logs

[Teachaiika]

(pour les aggros à la langue de Jake Spire, copier-coller ICI
garder le en signet, c'est toujours utile)

[LaVerole]

#6 no pvp alliance
i think all the neutral and apk are friendly so we must let them do alliance we cant forbidden this point they are a big family w/o the same guild so try to change this point
but i m ok for all other point and think all to
et pour les francais qui gueule tjs pour une fois qu y a un pe de diplomacie qui s instal essayer de pas foutre le bord je pense que y a rien d arreter et qu il est possible de discuter donc argumenter plutot que de flam pls

[Kodora]

Version française du message de Kure disponible ICI. Veuillez par contre continuer le débat sur ce même thread, merci.

[Borus]

J'edit, j'ai été trop "virulent" dans certains propos...

(pas assez lu peut être et trop de préjugés".)

[LaVerole]

argumente louis stp en quoi a notre avantge ???
-des gris je pense pas qu on soit la guild qui en ai le plus

-ensuite si on doit etre la guild la plus nombreuse docn si on zerg en continu avec ou sans relic sa risque de pas plaire

-les attaques en non prime time ca me parait evident oui qu il n y a pas d interet puisque la plupart des joueur ne sont pas la pour y participer

-ensuite g dit ce que je pensai pour les alliance y a quelque chose que t as pas compris ?

[Warlequin]

The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not reflect those of my guild. Fortunately they tend to follow the same path ;-)

I follow my guild codex, but i do not do it blindly.

Especially when the ennemy player is alone, has made a long travel to find a "safe" xp spot.

I remember killing a couple mobs chasing 2 of your member (bad pull ?) with my group, and thus saving them from a death far from a bind point. We then left your members go on without attacking them, even if the fight could have been interesting (5 Inguz lvl 30-45 vs 2 Req lvl 40-50).

This was not an act of pity, but an act of respect for fellow HUMAN players. Nobody likes to be killed in this situation even if it is "the game" for some.

I remember many times when i suprised some of your solo/duo members far far away on SI albion. I gathered they were either doing quests or xp. I did not attack, since there are other places i can go to if i wanted to battle requiems. This is also my vision of respect to a fellow player, even if he plays an ennemy.

I do not expect other players to follow my way of playing and i will never force them to do so.

The point is : The only thing we share is this server "Camlann". Let's be intelligent enough to keep it alive no matter what each vision of the game is.

[Gorbad]

Bah requiem ne me pose plus du tout de problemes now sont exactement comme les autres (au nivo comportement)

[Kikka]

-> ignore tous les trolls, notamment d'un certain nombre de personnes dont je partage la guild tag, et dont je ne peux donc que déplorer le comportement non constructif.


-> Question :

There is nothing said about 'exploits' or at least 'cheap tactics' such as stading on roofs at TPers or hiding in bugs. I find very un-fairplay to resort to such tactics (they are, of course tactics)

I would like to know Requiem's position on this point, since it does not appear on the 'forbidden' list.

[uban]

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Je vois des vae victis et des redemptions , je vois pas de req ni de logs

Sisi regarde bien, y'en a au moins un sous le Ulk de droite

[Kodora]

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Kodora, avec ces 2 points, Kure veut "interdire" d'avoir des amis ...

On peut voir ça comme ça effectivement. Rien ne t'empêche d'envoyer un MP à Kure en anglais en lui expliquant ça clairement, car comme il est dit, nous sommes ouverts à la discussion à propos de ces règles et vous pouvez suggérez vos adaptations si vous estimez qu'il en faut.

[Borus]

@ LaVerole J'ai édité plus haut, je n'avais pas assez lu...mais ca me semble quand meme tard pour parler de fair play.

[Kodora]

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-> Question :

There is nothing said about 'exploits' or at least 'cheap tactics' such as stading on roofs at TPers or hiding in bugs. I find very un-fairplay to resort to such tactics (they are, of course tactics)

I would like to know Requiem's position on this point, since it does not appear on the 'forbidden' list.

Well that kind of bug exploit is even forbidden by the developper of this game and GOA. I think we don't have to mention that such of things, seems logic.

[Kikka]

So does it mean Requiem does not care and I should send my screenshots to GOA, or does it mean Requiem does care and will punish themselves their members, in which case I can send my screenshots to whom ?

Of course, it is never a FG requiem that will can on Svasud/DL/whatever roof, but a solo archer, or caster .... and when I send them that maybe they are bug exploiting, all they have to say to me is 'LOL'. So maybe the message that such things are forbidden has not gone around ...


There are many place it is impossible to know if it is a bug exploit or not (for instant on top of the portal at Aegirheim)... or even the rocks next to Gothwaite portal... and many will argue that they are not exploiting a bug. Difficult to know, and difficult to decide because many cases are unclear.

But for me (and for GOA btw) some places are clearly off bounds (like roofs of Frontier Forts).

[Kodora]

Well cheating and bug exploit was never accepted in Requiem and I think you can (you must ..) report any of these exploiters to both Req's GM's and GOA.

[Aikanaro [Cam]]

I understand this message :

#1 Grey Requiem hated by other player like requiem so they was grey kill. And see in your guild before write that : when i was no guild and grey more and more time i was killed by Requiem's members.

#3 Never for ever see the GOA's text it's forbiden !

#4 Requiem lost some battles when they are in number less than other but, with relics and their Realm points win in the time of chaos, in 8 vs 8 : 3/4 of chance to win.

#5 Rez on PvE wow i never see that else when i have no guild and i was grey

#6 See #4

#7 Requiem lost some relics when some guilds play in the same way. You propose rules for the clock to rob outpost and in which time?? US time (for canadian)?? English time (for UK)?? or Paris time (for french)?? Before coming here I was on Ys server where there are this rules it's not the good thing to bring an answer at this problem.

But I think that you will have to be more tolerant on the eccarts in the 1 or 2 next week that one is done has the idee which Requiem has well changes because I don't think that 1 only guild will make the effort in first.

So wait and see

PS : Sorry for my poor english.

PS 2 : I'm not guild leader so i be join idea of him whereas it don't bring in the same way than mine.

[Kodora]

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Just to answer 1 thing we always use CET (Central Europe Time = GMT + 1, VRT + 4, etc.) to say hours cause our guild is really an international one. (We've got ppl from France, Germany, Belgium, United Kingdom, Spain, Russia, Netherlands, and even Japan ! )

[Zangdar MortPartout]

So you should begin by BAN Greline and Krav who continue to grey kill without any reason

[Kodora]

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So you should begin by BAN Greline and Krav who continue to grey kill without any reason

As Kure said you'd better add a screenshot to prove your says.

[dervic]

BB and spy on the TP is fait play for u Kure ?
No so u kick all BB player and double account in ure guild

[LaVerole]

@dervic ok so then u see a people alone and if u are fg u dont attak him to be fair insn't it ?

[dervic]

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@dervic ok so then u see a people alone and if u are fg u dont attak him to be fair insn't it ?

U too ?

[maximuss]

!!!!!Personnal opinion!!!!!!!
Kure, i'm personaly happy to see that u wanna do something to improve camlann's spirit.
For u're guild master of the biggest guild of camlann, i think it's a good start.
The only problem i see atm is that the rules u're suggesting, exept the ones that are respected by most of the players (no rez kill, no trash talk, no grey kill....), are simply dedicaced to enhance Requiem's supremacy.
U're speaking about fairness.
As a stealther, i feel really concerned by the buffbotted requiem's stealther problem (the large majority of bb stealther are requiem or non guilded friends). THIS is a typical unfair and laming way of playing.
So personally, i do not see yours rules with a good eyes atm and i 'll continue to avoid requiem as much as possible or to lam near portals....
But as i said at the very beginning, this is a good start
.

Maximuss, ProfessionalPortalLamer.

PS: i personally leveled a BB 3 month ago.
As a caricature, i would say that the fights were something like select target+F6+stick+go to toilets.
Then come back at keyboard, look at how much RP i get and depending on the time i spent to toillets , i had to become stealthed again or to release because someone else came and killed me.
Good for rp, but not really for fun and for other players.