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Bonjour j'ai une question concernant le sicaire
Sur la spé alors y'a envenom critical strike dual wield thrust stealth Faut en choisir 3 par exemple critikal strike stealth et thrust et laissé les autres vides ou comment ca marche? Parce que avant je jouais sur mid un skald c'etait pas compliqué Hammer battlesong un peu de parade Mais pour le sicaire ya carrément pas assez de points ! |
09/03/2010, 13h30
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Au contraire le sicaire est celui qui a le plus de points...
http://rldf.eu.org/daoc/ftp/programm...icaire.cfm.htm Furtivité/Tranchant ou Estoc et Empoisonné pas besoin de les mettre à 50. Faut que ca donne 50 avec les bonus de rang et les bonus sur la sc: exemple : 35poison(+11 sur sc 4 de rang) 35furtivité(+11 sur sc 4 de rang) 36tranchant(+11 sur sc 4 de rang) 44deuxarmes(+11 sur sc 4 de rang) 41as(+11 sur sc 4 de rang) Template pas mal au 5L pour le stun deux armes au 44. |
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09/03/2010, 14h04
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41 en as???? lol tu voulais écrire 39 je pense
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12/08/2010, 04h49
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50 CS
35 Env 36 Slash 35 Stealth 34 DW Au 5Lx |
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21/08/2010, 18h24
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23/08/2010, 13h37
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Je joue avec le template cité en premier, à savoir le 44 Dual (deux armes)... l'avantage de cette spé c'est les styles positionnels ou après esquive qui sont énorme (y'a un stun sur une suite de coup après esquive, qui te permet ensuite d'enchainer sur un coup e coté + un coup de dos).
Je n'ai jamais joué en spé Critical Strike donc je peux pas trop dire mais jusque mon 5L la spé Dual ne m'a jamais vraiment posé de problèmes même en duel! |
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25/08/2010, 10h32
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la spé AS tu monte jusqu a 44 de tte maniere :d juste pourle combo apres esquive qui débuff 2%+5% absorb :d
Apres a aprtir du 7L ou 8L je sais plus tu peux arriver a 44 dual 44 as :d |
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25/08/2010, 11h15
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Je veux pas dire de bêtises mais sur mon Sicaire, je dois tourner avec :
50AS (parceque le dernier style de la chaine evade sur-roks) 44DW 32Fufu 32Empoi Reste estoc ce qui donne dans les 28 ou 29 de mémoire, je suis pas à 51 arme mais j'aime trop le 50AS pour m'en passer. |
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25/08/2010, 11h19
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Au 8L, j'ai ce template, et j'ai 30 tranchant. |
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25/08/2010, 12h28
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Pareil pour moi alors, je croyais ne pas dépasser les 29, je me suis trompé, merci pour la précision !
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25/08/2010, 13h14
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template sicaire
Bonjour,
Personellement j'ai : estoc 30 +21 (pour caper le WS) fufu 29+21 (pour caper fufu, car supérieur à 50 g testé ca sert à rien) dual 50 + 21 (pour faire bobo avec les styles DUAL en anytime) AS 48 +21 (ca suffit pour utiliser les PA et BS avec des gros dégats et avoir l'avant dernier du combo sur evade) poison 29 +21 (depuis le UP des poisons, et avec VIPER, serait dommage de pas utiliser les poisons 50) J'ai essayé pendant un temps au R6 le full dual sans AS, c'est assez dommage de se priver des combos PA et BS. Choix personnel. Pour monter un sicaire à faible rank je préconsie quand même le 44 AS et résiduel dual. Le taux de double touche sur le sicaire est de 37,5% + ( lvl bonus compris /2 ); Exemple RR11 : 50 + 21 = 73%. RR4 : 50 + 14 = 69,50%. Alors qu'en baissant son dual pour UP son AS : RR4 : 30 + 14 = 59,5% c'est pas super énorme en différence et ca permet d'utiliser les combos AS en y mettant des points gagnés. Sauf à partir d'un certain rank ou bien en template full dual, le résiduel du sic est normalement en dual. 
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25/08/2010, 17h05
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[6tron]
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25/08/2010, 20h05
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Le mode de calcul revient strictement au même :
50 dual + 21 = 73%
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26/08/2010, 10h28
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[6tron]
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26/08/2010, 15h29
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27/08/2010, 10h47
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[6tron]
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avec le vrai calcul, il aura 25 + 6,8 = 31,8%. ca revient peut etre au meme pour toi mais dans ce cas la, il y a presque 11% d'écart. (edit: j'avoue) |
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27/08/2010, 12h37
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[Vind]
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t'as du courage, mehara ...
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27/08/2010, 13h44
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Alpha & Oméga
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Oui je trouve
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27/08/2010, 14h29
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(c'est pas parce que je me suis gourré que t'es obligé d'être agressif et de flame...)
 
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27/08/2010, 14h38
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Truc sympa pour tout le monde
J'ai trouvé ça : ca donne pas mal d'indications sur pas mal de choses.
Bref, ca peut être utile :  Navigation
This is an attempt to categorically describe the game mechanics of DAoC. This should help both the new and the old understand how they can maximize their playing and cut down on the time a new user has to spend learning the ropes. I have divided into several categories for easy reference. NOTE: This is not all my original work. The only part I can take credit for is the conditional probabilities and general compilation of this. A good chunk of my information comes from: Spydor's Web. This is in draft format and not all information has been proven or confirmed. If you see something that needs to be added, changed or removed let me know. INDEX
Base XP XP gained is primarily based on the level of the highest character in the group and the con of the monster in relation to the highest character. As you add more members into a group, the XP will drop. In general:
For a table of XP caps: Here. In addition to base XP you can earn several types of bonus XP. This XP is in ADDITION to your base and is not restricted by a cap. So, even if you're at cap XP acheiving bonuses can make leveling even faster. Camp Bonuses Camp bonuses are designed to discourage "Camping" or staying at one particular location and killing the same mob repeatedly. As more and more mobs are killed from the same "camp" the camp bonus will drop until it hits zero. Dungeons and underwater, in ToA, have longer lasting camps that are higher in general than that of other areas. The best way to earn XP is to pick an isolated area, kill until camp bonus drops and then move on. This will ensure that you maximize your XP. Group Bonuses Some mobs, when attacked by a group, will bring several "adds" or additional mobs. This is called "BAF" or "Bring a Friend". Killing these mobs will give you a group bonus that is based on the number of adds and the base amount of XP. In groups it is vital to kill mobs that BAF to maximize XP. Outpost Bonuses Finally, if you kill mobs within a certain radius of a keep that your realm owns, you earn a bonus on your XP in addition to the base XP. POWER, ENDURANCE AND HITPOINTS REGENERATION Hitpoints, Power, and Endurance each have three timers that determine how quickly you regain them. These timers are not effected by any spell in the game, and no effect you can do will modify the length of these timers. StatIn CombatStandingSittingHitpoints14 sec6 sec3 secPower14 sec6 sec3 secEndurancenone1 sec1/4 secRegardless of your level, with no spells cast on you, you will regain one unit of Hitpoints, Power, and Endurance each cycle. It is currently unsure if one unit is one point, or is multiple points at the higher levels. Some spells will modify this amount gained per unit. Each tier of song will increase the units regained by (X * 100%) where X is the tier of the song being used. In other words, if you are playing Power song 5, you will increase the total amount regenerated per cycle by 500%. HOW DO YOUR PRIMARY STATS AFFECT YOU? Strength
Armor Factor (AF)
WS determines the chance that you can by-pass another opponents defenses (evade/parry/block). It is stated by Mythic that weapon skill has nothing to do with hit/miss rates and only relates to harming your opponents chance to evade, parry or block.
See this site for a test showing weapon skill versus miss rates: Clicky HOW DOES MELEE WORK? Please note that the combat engine is VERY complex but the information in here is, in general, quite reliable. The Battle Order and the Effects of Conditional Probabilities When someone attacks you, the order for determining your avoidance of attack (parry, block, etc.) is evade, parry, block, hit/miss, guard, intercept and bladeturn. This order is VERY important because of the way DAoC checks each action. During a battle, if someone attacks you the program will go through each of these steps in order EVERY time. For instance, if you evade, you cannot block. If you parry, you cannot block. For those meleers that rely on block styles, this is very annoying. Because of the way these are checked, you ALWAYS want to improve your best defense FIRST. This leads to better overall defense. This will result in a small but noticeable overall improvement in defense. It also means that if you have a 5% chance of evade, 40% chance of parry, and 30% chance of blocking, you cannot add these together. Conditional probabilities would mean that although you have a 40% chance to parry when checked, you will parry less often in battle due to the fact that you may evade 5% of the time, reducing the probability that during a battle you will see a parry. Weapon Speed Each weapon has a rated speed listed on the item. The formula for your effective weapon speed including haste and quickness is: Eff Spd = Spd x (1-(Qui - 60)/500)*(1 - Haste) So, if I have 250 quickness and a 17% haste buff using a 4.5 weapon I will swing every 2.26. Please note that there is a cap in place for melee speed. You cannot swing faster than every 1.5 seconds. This means that if your effective speed is less than 1.5, you should switch your weapons because your losing damage. You would be near the cap with a 3.0 SPD weapon, 250 quickness and a 17% haste buff. Try to avoid using fast weapons when you are at capped speed because this will reduce your damage overall. Weapon Damage Weapon damage is primarily based on the speed of your weapon and the damage per second ("DPS"). This number shows the potential maximum damage the weapon will do per second at its base speed. This number is modified by the speed (SPD) of the weapon. If the weapon is actually swung faster than the SPD of the weapon as we showed above, then the base DPS will increase linearly with the swing speed, and if the weapon is swung slower, than it will decrease linearly as well. This is very different than most other DPS based effects in DAOC. Damage Cap = DPS * SPD * 3 * (1 + (SPD - 2) * .03) This means that slow weapons receive a slight bonus to damage. For a 16.5 DPS weapon that is at SPD of 5 the maximum damage would be: Damage Cap = 16.5 * 5 * (1.09) = 89.925 This implies that your maximum damage would be 89.925. Weapon SPD Effective Bonus 2.5 1.5% 4.0 6.0% 5.5 10.5% Please also note that the weapon DPS and SPD have decimal values that you cannot see. A 16.5 DPS weapon may be 16.59 DPS. Weapon Specialization We covered the maximum damage that is done with a weapon above. However, your damage is also a function of how much you put points into the type of weapon your using. In general, at 50 weapon your weapon damage will be maximized. Weapon Styles Weapon styles are very important to understand. The best research into them was done by Jay Ambrosini aka Wyrd. In short, each style has a "growth multiplier" that adds damage above the base damage you do. This growth multiplier is calculated as: Style Damage = ((Growth Rate * Weapon Spec) * Effective Speed) / Unstyled Damage Cap From this we can tell that your style damage is positively affected by your weapon spec, the style growth rate and by the factors that improve your unstyled damage cap (shown in the "Weapon Damage" section). It is negatively affected by haste and by quickness. If I use the Bumblebee Style which has a growth rate of .58, with 250 quickness and a 17% haste buff using a 4.5 weapon I will swing every 2.26. The BM has 50+11 in pierce. The weapon damage cap is DPS * SPD * 3 * (1 + (SPD - 2) * .03) = 239.4 Style Bonus = ((Growth Rate * Weapon Spec) * Effective Speed) / 239.4 Style Bonus = .58 * 61 * 2.26 / 239.4 = 33.4% When I use this style my style damage should add 33.4% to every hit. There are some exceptions. Starter styles (the first style you get) don't follow these rules. The stealth openers in Critical Strike are different and listed below:
The Details of Quickness and Damage Quickness has multiple effects and some people get confused regarding whether it improves damage output or decreases damage output. Using the formulas above it is easy to test what is the answer. @ 120 Qui / 0% haste you would do a total damage of 379 (140 style, 239 unstyled) at 3.96. Therefore, damage done per second is 95.71. @ 250 Qui / 17% haste you would do a total damage of 321 (82 style, 239 unstyled) at 2.32. Therefore, damage done per second is 138.36. Quickness does reduce the damage per shot, however, over time, the meleer with higher quickness will always out damage the slow one. The reason is that although the style damage is reduced, the fast meleer will be able to attack almost 2 times for every 1 time the slow meleer attacks. Style Endurance Use In general a meleer will have styles that use low, medium and high amounts of endurance. The styles usually list their endurance usage by: StyleIntegerGeneralHigh3AnytimeMedium2Positionals, Combos, TauntLow1ConditionalsEND Cost = (Weapon Spd + 1) * Integer Therefore, using the 4.5 SPD weapon from above, if we use a Medium endurance style it will take 9% of our endurance and if we use a High endurance style it will take 13.5%. In general it is best using the lowest endurance style if you can help it. How Left Axe (LA) Works LA will always swing both weapons though you may miss. However, the damage done by both weapons is determined by your spec in LA. Your damage for each weapon is modified by: Modified damage = Base damage * (.625 + .0034 * LA) Therefore, if you're going to use 2 weapons with LA you should have a good spec in LA, otherwise just use one weapon. There is also some testing to support that your to-hit is also affected by LA spec. With 0 LA, you will only do 62.5% of your normal damage. With 50+11 LA, you will do 79.5% of your normal damage. How Celtic Dual (CD) and Dual Wield (DW) Work CD/DW differs in the sense that it gives you a chance to swing both weapons but doesn't modify damage. Offhand Swing % = Level * .5% + .68% * CD/DW @ Level 50 Swing % = 25% + .68% * CD/DW With 0 CD/DW, you will swing both 25% of the time for full damage. With 50+11 CD/DW, you will swing both 66.48% of the time for full damage. Higher spec in CD/DW also improves style damage when using CD/DW styles. How Haste on LA/CD/DW Works As a dual wielder you can use two weapons of different speeds. When both weapons are swung the game takes the average of the effective speed of BOTH weapons. If a BM wields a 3.6 adze and a 2.5 dagger with 250 quickness, they will swing the adze at 2.17, the dagger at 1.55 and both at 1.86. Generally if you can use two weapons, especially with those using LA who get the haste 100% of the time, you should take advantage of using two different weapons. Normal Damage Table For a damage table, go to here. DEFENSIVE SKILLS Parry Your chance to parry is affected by the number of attackers, the size of the weapon you're using, and your spec in parry. Parry % = (5% + 0.5% * Parry) / # of Attackers Parry: (((Dex*2)-100)/40)+(Parry/2)+(Mastery of P*3)+5. < Possible relation to buffs So, if you have parry of 20 you will have a chance of parrying 15% if there is one attacker. If you have parry of 20 you will have a chance of parrying 7.5%, if there are two attackers. From Grab Bag: "Dual wielders throw an extra wrinkle in. You have half the chance of shield blocking a dual wielder as you do a player using only one weapon. Your chance to parry is halved if you are facing a two handed weapon, as opposed to a one handed weapon." So, when facing a 2H weapon, you may see a penalty to your parrying. Parry is only possible if they are within your frontal arc of 180 degrees. Evade Evade is based entirely off of your level of Evade. For each level of evade you have a 5% chance of evading. Evade V would give you a 25% chance of evading an attack. Evade: (((Qui+Dex)-100)/40)+(Evade*5)+(Dodger*3). < Possible relation to buffs Evade is only possible if they are within your frontal arc of 180 degrees, unless you have "Advanced Evade" which is only given to Bezerkers, Savages, Blademasters and Mercenaries. Those classes with "Advanced Evade" can evade attacks from ANY angle. Testing has indicated that when facing enemies using 2 weapons your chance to evade is halved. This is apparently a bug. Test Data Block Your chance to block is affected by the number of attackers, the size of the shield you're using, and your spec in block. Shield% = (5% + 0.5% * Shield) Small Shield = 1 attacker Medium Shield = 2 attackers Large Shield = 3 attacker Each attacker above these numbers will reduce your chance to block. From Grab Bag: "Dual wielders throw an extra wrinkle in. You have half the chance of shield blocking a dual wielder as you do a player using only one weapon. Your chance to parry is halved if you are facing a two handed weapon, as opposed to a one handed weapon." Block: (((Dex*2)-100)/40)+(Shield/2)+(Mastery of Blocking * 3)+5. < Possible relation to buffs Guarding A tank who is specced in shield can "Guard" someone in their group. This gives them a chance to block an attack that would have hit the person they guard. There are different levels of guard based on your spec in Shield. Each level of guard improves your chance of blocking for your teammate. 5 shield = guard 1 10 shield = guard 2 15 shield = guard 3 You must be within a certain range of your target (roughly 500 units) but you do not have to facing any particular direction to guard. For blocking for yourself, the 180 degree radius does apply BUT NOT FOR GUARD. Intercept All tanks can choose to intercept one attack for someone in their group. If they get hit, they will take more damage then normal. Protect This tank ability allows you to take some agro generated by a player in your group and transfer it to you. However, this ability does have limits. PBAEers will not receive the benefit of this ability. Where do you get hit? When you get hit the weapon may strike you on any one of your armor pieces. However, there are specific probabilities attached to each piece.
Every item in the game has a bonus %. These bonuses make the item more effective. A weapon with a bonus will hit more often and do more damage. A shield will block more often, do more damage and hit more often. In general, it is very worthwhile to put a bonus on all your items. HOW DOES CASTING WORK? Power usage and focus staves Each spell has a cost to power that when cast successfully will deplete the caster's power pool. The only way to reduce this cost is to use focus staves. From the Grab Bag: When you are not using any focus staff at all, a spell will cost you 120% of its delved cost to cast, provided it is a spell that uses focus. i.e. Healing classes do not use focus for their spells. A focus staff will only benefit you if it has focus bonus in the same line as that spell, as modified below. (i.e. A staff with 50 levels in Mana will help Mana spells but not Void spells) If you are using a focus staff, a spell will cost you between 80-120% of its delved power cost to cast, depending upon several factors. If the condition of the staff is not 100%, you will not get the full focus bonus, and it will cost more power to cast spells. If your modified spec level* is below the level of the spell, you will not get the full focus bonus, and it will cost more power to cast the spell. If the focus level on the staff is below the level of the spell, you will not get the full focus bonus, and it will cost more power to cast the spell. Note that all three of the above conditions factor into power cost. Thus, To get the the full 80% cost on your spells, you would use a 100% condition staff with a focus bonus greater than the level of the spell you want to cast, and cast a spell that is lower in level than your modified spec level. As each of these factors (condition, spec level, and focus level) gets further away from the optimal condition, the power cost slides from 80% to 120%. A few examples: If you have a staff with 50 levels in Mana, are casting a level 50 mana based spell. and your modified spec is 48 (35 spec + 11 in items + 2 for Realm Rank 3) you will get most of the power bonus from using the staff) If your modified spec was 50 (35 spec +11 in items +4 for Realm Rank 5) then you would get all of the bonus. If your modified spec was 16 (1 spec +11 in items +4 for Realm Rank 5) then you would get little bonus from the staff. *Your base spec is the number of points you have put into the line. Your modified spec is that number plus items plus realm rank bonuses. Power regeneration It is widely known that pure cloth casters (enchanters, mentalists, runemasters, wizards, etc.) will regenerate power MUCH slower when below 50% power. All other magic users will regenerate at rate that is constant at any level of power. Therefore, if you're a cloth casters ALWAYS try to keep your power above 50%. Specialization Your specialization in a spell line affects your damage. The exact relationship is not known but the higher your specialization the less variance your spell will have and the more damage it will do. Buff Effectiveness Although all buffs have a delve value, the actual affect on a player is modified by their spec within that spell line. A warden with only 25 Nurture will have buffs that are MUCH less effective than a warden with 50 Nurture even when casting then SAME buff. WHAT ARE THE CAPS IN DAOC? Buffs Base Buffs Cap = Receiver's level * 1.25 (62 at Level 50) Spec Buffs Cap = Receiver's level * 1.875 (93 at Level 50) A buff that goes above this limit will result in no further bonus. Therefore, it is a good idea to test the effect of a buff on a level 50 character and determine whether you can achieve similar results using a lower level buff. With ToA items and high specialization in a buffing spell line, it is easy to make yellow buffs equivalent to red buffs. Items NameFormulaCap @ 50AttributesLevel * 1.575ResistsLevel / 2 + 126SkillsLevel / 5 + 111HPLevel * 4200PowerLevel / 2 + 126Beyond this item bonuses will no longer benefit you. ToA Caps NameFormulaCap @ 50Casting Speed %Level / 510%Casting Range %Level / 510%Casting Damage %Level / 510%Archery Speed %Level / 510%Archery Range %Level / 510%Archery Damage %Level / 510%Melee Style Damage %Level / 510%Melee Damage %Level / 510%Melee Speed %Level / 510%Healing Effectiveness %Level / 225%Stat Enhancement Effectiveness %Level / 225%Debuff Effectiveness %Level / 225%Stat Cap Bonuses LevelLevel / 225  
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