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Valandil
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C est pas le tout d avoir un gros tank encore faut il le tenir en vie .
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80% des gens ayant acces aux plans elementaux jouent pres de 40 ou 50heures/semaine.Les 20% restant sont des ex hardcore qui jouent encore en causual et qui ne lootent que ce que les autres leur laisse.
Certaines personnes n'ont pas tout ce temps libre mais ont pas mal d'argent(difficile de concilier reussite sociale et eq lorsque les études sont finies).Donc ils utilisent leur argent pour augmenter leur plaisir dans leur loisir.Ils compensent le manque de temps par l'argent.Amasser 100k n'est pas difficile mais long pour la plupart des gens, certains preferent payer plutot que passer 300 heures a RM, sachant que l'argent réel n'est pas un probleme pour eux.C'est leur choix.
D'autres sont lassés par leur chanter 65 et ne veulent pas recommencer un moine au level 1,ils vendent le chanter et achetent un moine 65.
EQ ebay génère pas mal d'argent, certains vivent même de ça.je connais des gens ayant acheté leur perso sur ebay et qui sont d'excellents joueurs.
Furor est un imbecile et sa flamme sur TR est risible(comme celle sur le kill de rz par AL,le fennin ro intuable sans un war a 12khp ou poeb flag "under a week").Actuellemnt sa guilde n'est plus la premiere et ca blesse son incommensurable ego.
Cela dit ce qui est triste c'est faire cela a ses guildies.Mais c'est vrai que stormhammer est plus un serveur de mercenaire ou l'esprit de guilde n'est pas tres present.
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Valandil
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Le Fennin Ro "intuable" avait ete kill par TR d ailleurs ce que Furor n avait pas contester a l epoque.


La remarque sur les serveur crash est tres fun quand on a vu les gens de TR raler en serverwide chats ou sur IRC car les servercrash leur ont couter pas mal d h de raid : 2x8h dans air et 3x8h dans earth . Si SH n avait pas crash le 5 TR aurait ete dans PoEb le 5 et non le 11 . ( 2 autres serveurs crash entre tps avant que TR fasse sa clef ) .

De plus Furor fait ca aussi car il essaye de recruter certains de chez TR par exemple des clerics surtout ....
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Tu serais pas TR toi des fois Non je plaisante hein je respecte ta volonté d'anonymat

Cela dit si je savais que des off ou des membres de ma guilde se conduisaient comme ça, je n'apprecierais pas du tout, meme si ce sont des amis, meme si pour la quatrième fois ce sont les acheteurs les plus c*

Sinon pour en revenir a SH on ne peut pas nier qu'il y ait un certain esprit de mercenariat, et pas que chez TR, hein, et mems si la voix de Furor porte haut parce qu'il est connu, sa guilde n'est pas forcement blanche comme neige non plus .
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bof chacun ca vision de l'argent et du temps..

certain sont tres bien remunerer irl mais bosse bcp n'ont pas le temps de farmer ,camper ou consacrer du temps dans une guild d'un certain niv , donc y s'achete avec du vrai cash des item dans leur loisir , d'autre consacre tout leur temps sur EQ a devenir ubber ... le principal c de prendre du plaisir sur EQ =)

jme souviens avoir vu quelque pars des vente d'item no drop y donnait un delay d'une semaine ,donc ils devaient tuer le mob et te faire looter l'item...
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Valandil
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Je suis pas chez TR et je ne le serais jamais tout simplement car tous mes amis ou presques sont sur mon serveur et n ont pas bouger.
Une des personnes de mon serveur que je respecte le plus hors de ma guilde y est et s y plait bcp .
Je pense d ailleurs que bcp de membres de Tr restent dans la guilde plus par amitie et par plaisir de jouer ensemble que par mercenariat surtout que les classes fondamentales sont courtisees par d autres guildes meme en cross server .
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Valandil
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Pour Griotte rien chez mes tradeskillers a propos de ton item . Le mieux serait demander sur eqtrader . Pour ma part en checkant mes mule j en ait 3
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Merf ok merci de t'etre renseigné quand meme Ca drop un paquet de trucs divers et variés, dur dur de differencier ce qui est utile de ce qui est cash .
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TR avait deja aucune crédibilité a la base ça été encore pire avec leur petite lettre dites msieu Sony moveloguer nous sur un serveur neuf avec personne dans VT car c'est trop dur la competition bouhhhhh tu te souvient pas de celle la? hin hin
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lol exact m'en rappelle, elle avait fait le tour des boards cette lettre
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Valandil
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Je me souviens aussi de la lettre sauf que dans mon souvenir c etait plutot dit sony tu peux pas nous envoyer sur un serveur avec une vraie competition de preference similaire a SH mais sans GMs pour nous empecher de race .
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Faut manger du poisson alors c'est bon pour la mémoire
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Valandil
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Citation:
Dear Mr. Scotto:

We are the members of "Township Rebellion" (hereinafter "TR"), a player run
guild the Everquest Legends premium server "Stormhammer." We write to you on
behalf of our guild, which represents approximately 120 players, many of
which pay for multiple premium subscriptions to partake in the enhanced
experienced promised by the Evequest Legends service.

Our guild has been a part of the Legends service since before the
Stormhammer Legends server became live. Once the Legends service, with its
premium content and enhanced service guidelines, was announced, a group of
us quickly realized our intention to migrate to the premium server. Through
aggressive cross-server recruitment, promotion, and planning, we insured
that by the time the Legends service opened we had a large number of
customers ready and willing to join us. For example, on the day the
Stormhammer went live, we had approximately two hundred accounts committed
to our guild. The Township Rebellion guild of today still includes at our
core many of the 200 accounts present on that first day. Our reasons for
moving to the server was to instigate a fresh start and partake in the
promised new content and experiences legends had to offer.

Since that day our guild has consistently demonstrated a high level of game
play. Our accomplishments in-game has matched and exceeded that of the top
guilds in Everquest. We very quickly became "the" high profile guild to
measure the success of your service by. And you will note we always
portrayed a positive attitude towards the server, staff and players. Our
site and accomplishments were very quickly picked up and viewed by players
on all servers in Everquest.

When the inevitable conflicts over spawns with other guilds on Stormhammer
began, we have consistently demonstrated a willingness to resolve problems
and issues as suggested by the staff of the Stormhammer service. For
example, we delayed waking the Sleeper in Sleeper's Tomb for over three
months at the suggestion of the Stormhammer staff. Additionally, for a
substantial time prior to the institution of a "calendar" system, we
voluntarily avoided spawns more representative of earlier phases of the game
(e.g., North Temple of Veeshan) and devoted our guilds focus to new content
which was not in pursuit or conflict with any other guild entities on the
server. When the "calendar" system was forced upon us, the staff admitted
that spawn conflicts were greatly diminished, primarily due to our voluntary
efforts.

We quickly became disillusioned with the promises of new content, events,
and enhanced services that had initially prompted us to move to the server
and form a community here. It became painfully obvious that even the Server
GMs were being held hostage by the fact that they didn’t have the content
that was needed to pacify so many high level players on the server.

Although we did not agree with the calendar system forced upon us, we did
accept it in order to work with Sony staff and provide a comfortable
community for the server. We also placed our trust in the Customer service
staff when they said “trust us it will be OK”.

After participation in the calendar system, our guild has reached the
conclusion that a definite and distinct pattern of biased exists against our
guild through repeated acts of the Customer service staff (and principally
through decisions made by GM "Bordael"). In short, the calendar system is
not being enforced fairly and is currently administered so that it is biased
against TR.

We have considered this previously and did not take steps then, due to the
repeated assurances from GM "Bordael" that such favoritism would stop, the
inconsistencies would halt, and the Legends as advertised would appear. In
direct discussions with Senior GM staff we were assured that certain actions
on the part of the GM’s would be “looked in to” and “addressed”. Time frames
were placed on questionable GM decisions with promises of direct action
items to ensure these occurrences would not happen again. None of this has
happened; in fact the inconstancies have grown in number.

We view this as a "bait and switch", and as such, fraud. We were drawn to
the server under false premise and guidelines of an “enhanced gaming
service”. The incidents which support this bias are too lengthy and numerous
to recite in this letter, however, rest assured they have been documented
and have been submitted in our complaint to the San Diego Better Business
Bureau, whom we've been informed has on previous occasion dealt with nearly
100 cases against SOE.


Notice

Given the current environment on the Stormhammer server, the bias
demonstrated by the staff, and our inability to amicably resolve these
issues through the normal customer service process, SOE is hereby placed on
notice that Township Rebellion henceforth withdraws and no longer recognizes
as legitimate, the calendar system forced upon the Stormhammer players. As
of July 24th, 2002 Township Rebellion will return to the "free-for-all" play
style found on nearly every other Everquest server.

This decision has been made with great sadness. Each one of Township
Rebellion's accounts represent players who have dedicated enormous time,
energy and money into SOE's Everquest game. Many of our players have over
one year of Everquest play time. Many of our players have been involved with
Everquest since the beta test. In short, we take our gaming experience in
Everquest seriously. Which is why are taking such extreme measures in light
of the waste of our time and money.

We recognize that our planned course of action may cause some friction with
the Stormhammer staff. Rest assured that TR members will play Everquest in a
manner consistent within the rules issued by SOE for game play across all
servers. However, SOE should also recognize that if the Stormhammer staff
takes arbitrary retaliatory action against our players/accounts, as we are
most certain GM "Bordael" will condone and attempt to influence us with, we
would consider such actions as a serious matter. Any such action will be
documented, internally reviewed, and publicized if found to be arbitrary or
capricious. In this regard please understand that TR's web site receives
over 10,000 hits daily from Everquest subscribers and we have reached
agreement with other top-tier (i.e., endgame capable) guilds and
guildleaders (e.g., www.fohguild.org "Furor") in
Everquest for the use of their web space for additional publicity as well as
popular Everquest message boards.

In closing,

We are quite unhappy with the situation on Stormhammer. We came here under
the premise of an enhanced gaming experience only to have imposed on us a
calendar system NOT publicized or accepted prior to the populace leaving
their former servers.

We feel in its current state it, most especially with the lead GM in charge
of customer service on Stormhammer being GM "Bordael", we will never be
treated with un-bias toward our guild. If another lead customer service GM
can be assigned in replacement of GM "Bordael" perhaps we can move forward.

Our goal is not to cause problems for any player or staff member. We simply
wish to play the game we have grown to love over the last nearly four years.
Should the server staff wish to continue with its change in policy and
attempt to impose a calendar, TR is willing to consider relocation to
another server, under certain circumstances. As you may recognize, players
who transfer to Stormhammer must leave behind their friends/guilds on their
home servers, and therefore, the current ability to return to our home
servers does not offer a solution or the prospect of splitting up the guild
we have built here, in good faith, for six months. Nor does the ability to
move to a different server without any equipment received through years of
hard work make much sense.

Also keep in mind the premise that people moved here under is quite
different than that initially promised by SOE. Thus, TR feels some what held
hostage here on Stormhammer and is willing to consider relocation, en mass,
to another Everquest server, so long as that server:

(1) Does not have an existing "end game" guild;
(2) Is a server not specifically marketed to non-Americans
(3) Players may transfer with all their equipment and skills intact; and
(4) Any TR member who is willing to make the transfer can take advantage of
the transfer.
(5) The server is not subject to a newly created or imposed GM calendar
system or restraints outside the normal play policy in any way.

If SOE would be willing to entertain such a transfer, please contact us, you
will find us most cooperative.

Keep in mind we are happy to stay on the stormhammer server and continue
playing as was the intent on our move here and under the guidelines and
indications of what the server was to be prior to the move. However as
stated we will not be doing so under the arbitrary calendar imposed by the
server staff. Otherwise we are happy to discuss the above solution as a
win/win for everyone.

Again, it is in no way our intention to cause friction, problems, or
instigate any conflicts on the server. We simply wish to play the game.


Yours truly,

Township Rebellion
Donc si je resume ils veulent partir sur un serveur sans guilde high end ( ils sont la seule guilde high end de SH a se moment la ) car les GMs favorisent ouvertement la 2eme guilde du serveur et que le systeme de calendrier a ete rajouter a posteriori de leur arrive sur le serveur .
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Donc si je resume ils veulent partir sur un serveur sans guilde high end ( ils sont la seule guilde high end de SH a se moment la ) car les GMs favorisent ouvertement la 2eme guilde du serveur et que le systeme de calendrier a ete rajouter a posteriori de leur arrive sur le serveur .
Déja faut rien d'autre avoir a faire de sa vie pour ecrire une tartine pareille a SoE a mon avis Et puis le principe de je paie, donc je veux pas avoir de concurrence sur mes mobs et mes loots ça me fait rire . Je vois pas pourquoi la concurrence n'existerait pas, meme sur SH . Donc faudrait creer un serveur avec SH comme seule guilde High End pour qu'ils soient seuls et puissent ramasser leur loot tranquille ? Wtf ? Sous pretexte qu'ils paient 40 $ par mois ? Sont ptet pas les seuls a pouvoir se payer un abo a EQ a ce prix par mois .

Et puis le coup d'une guilde est favorisée par rapport a telle autre, etc ... Ca n'importe quelle guilde peut raconter ça sur son serveur et se faire passer pour Caliméro .

La au plus je relis au plus ça me fait rire " ils veulent partir sur un serveur sans high end " ... Non mais franchement
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Anyway j'agree Griotte, les plus bêtes sont pas vraiment ceux qui vendent héhé...

Sinon c'est clair que sur VZ on a une jolie Ebay team.
Mais bon c'est la rancon du succes
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